Internet |Analysis

Examining studies cited by incels

Talk (16)

OC

Oriana Carciente

""Many incels quote a rule of thumb th..."
Linh Nguyen

Linh Nguyen

"Hi Suchiththa! Yes, the Incels.me sit..."
SW

Suchiththa Wickremesooriya

"At one point, soon after the Alex Min..."
Linh Nguyen

Linh Nguyen

"Thank you Steve!"

The internet subculture of “involuntarily celibate” men, also known as “incels,” has existed for decades. It gained mainstream exposure, however, when a 25-year-old, self-identified incel named Alek Minassian drove a rented van into pedestrians in Toronto on April 23, killing 10 and injuring 16. Most of his victims were female. 

(This is a WikiTribune community-driven piece that developed from a call-out, which can be found here.)

Self-identified incels who promote violence and rape toward women are a minority within the incel group. However, their ideology can translate to violence, as was the case with Minassian.

You can edit or expand this story

Edit

Another example was in 2014, when 22-year-old Elliot Rodger killed six people and injured 14 in Isla Vista, California. Prior to his attack, Rodger uploaded to YouTube a video titled “Elliot Rodger’s Retribution,” in which he explained that he wanted to punish women for rejecting him. Rodger, who ended his violent spree by killing himself with a gunshot to the head, has become a touchstone within the incel community.

Identifying ‘incel’

The term “incel” was coined (Elle) by a bisexual woman called Alana in 1993 to describe her lack of sexual experiences. Alana created a website to write about the topic, but eventually abandoned it.

Incel developed into an ideology made up mostly of men, later finding a home in a now-banned r/incels subreddit, where it quickly grew. In 2017, Reddit banned the subreddit – which had about 40,000 members – due to its open advocacy of violence toward women and rape.

Similar communities exist elsewhere, such as on 4Chan and Incels.me.

For the most part, incels remain in the internet space, making up a fraction of the so-called manosphere, a portmanteau of blogosphere and man. The term is a colloquial reference to the uncoordinated network of sites and forums that focus on issues relating to men.

News stories explaining incels have flooded the internet since the Toronto attack.

Studies cited by incels to support belief system

WikiTribune is inspecting some of the studies incels cite to back up their ideology. For the most part, the studies are legitimate, but are of course open to misinterpretation. Help WikiTribune report.

A more robust list of the studies incels cite can be found on this r/Braincels subreddit forum, the new subreddit used by incels.

Want to take this story further?

Edit

“The Paradox of Declining Female Happiness

In 2009, economists Betsey Stevenson and Justin Wolfers co-wrote a meta-analysis of women’s happiness titled The Paradox of Declining Female Happiness. Self-identified incels, as well as alt-right figures such as Milo Yiannopoulos, often point to this study to assert “women have been getting less happy since the sexual revolution,” inferring the sexual revolution was a bad idea.

The methodology behind the study was thorough, but its authors presented a plurality of possible explanations for its conclusions. They explicitly stated their paper wasn’t an attempt to explain the change in subjective reporting of happiness levels.

“We do not purport to offer an answer to what is driving the decline in subjective well-being among women,” they wrote.

Because it’s subjective, happiness is a tricky thing to measure. One such example to the paradox of this study is that “contrary to the subjective well-being trends we document, female suicide rates have been falling, even as male suicide rates have remained roughly constant.”

The study doesn’t present meaningful generalizations about women’s happiness, especially given notable exceptions to the pattern such as the fact that black women have been getting happier since the 1970s, according the study.

For the incel group, the general takeaway from this piece is that “sexual freedom was a mistake,” because it did them a disservice of allowing women to choose not to have sex with them.

“Changes in the Distribution of Sex Partners in the United States: 2002 to 2011–2013”

Some incels claim women generally choose to have sex with “Chad,” incel jargon for sexually active alpha males. Chads are generally portrayed as the opposite to incels (or beta males), and are depicted as aesthetically attractive (Data Society). The female equivalent of a Chad is called a “Stacy.”

In 2017, a group of academics published a study called Changes in the Distribution of Sex Partners in the United States: 2002 to 2011–2013. The study drew on two instances from the U.S. National Survey of Family Growth, drawn a decade apart, to support what they say is a monopolization of sex by the most sexually active men. A recent post on an incel forum cited the study, saying it proves women are choosing to have sex only with “Chads.”

The study does show that the top 5 percent of the most sexually active men in 2011-2013 had 50 sexual partners of the opposite sex over their lifetime, as compared with 38 in 2002. This could be the result of multiple causes. It might mean that “alpha males” pair with more women now – compatible with the incel argument. It could be product of women being more willing to have relations with men in general, which one could think would be a “benefit” in the eyes of incels, but this would mean that other men also have more partners. Or it could be that the men in question began inflating their numbers of sexual partners more than before, and the survey is instead tracking the increase in cultural value of claiming to have had many partners. The study itself notes that men have been known for a long time to inflate the numbers of sexual partners they claim in a survey, while women have been known to under-report them.

There is also no reason to believe that these men are “hogging” the women insofar as the most sexually active men are not marrying, and in polygamous relationships with, 50 women each. A woman who has once had a relationship with one such “Chad” may well turn around and marry someone less sexually attractive, because she values stability, humour, or some other variable. The study also claims that between 2011 and 2013, those differences ceased to be statistically significant. The study does not support the incel ideology’s belief that whites are the “genetically superior” race, as expressed by Elliot Rodger, the so-called “saint” of the group.

“How could an inferior, ugly black boy be able to get a white girl and not me? I am beautiful, and I am half white myself. I am descended from British aristocracy. He is descended from slaves. I deserve it more,” wrote Rodger in a manifesto before his 2014 killing spree.

Non-white incels claim that one of the reasons they find themselves unable to find sexual partners is because women are much more likely to want to have sex with white men. A post on an incel forum claims that “whites are the most attractive to women,” while another states that “black girls want white, Asians want white … brown [women] want white.”

The 2017 study, however, shows that white men actually have fewer partners than black men, and only slightly more than Hispanics. In 2011-13, the median number of sexual partners for all black men was nine, as compared to five for white men and four for Hispanics.

80/20 rule 

Many incels believe that Chads and Stacies dominate the market of sexually active people, in which 20 percent of these men or women have 80 percent of the sex. Incels also assume that women have become sexually promiscuous over time, in which 80 percent of women go for the top 20 percent of men.

However, a piece by Lyman Stone for the Institute for Family Studies (IFS), a right-wing think-tank, revealed that though male sexlessness is rising, it’s not for the reasons incels claim.

“The core incel story about what’s going on here—that a few Chads are hoarding a growing share of Stacies, depriving incels of mates—just doesn’t hold up. The top 20 percent of unmarried men are having about the same share of total sexual activity or sexual partnerings as has been the case for decades,” wrote Stone.

“Incels are right to see themselves as part of a novel and fairly extreme change in our society’s sexual behavior, with a growing share of sexless young men,” wrote Stone. “But the big change isn’t a growing share of alpha males hoarding all the sex, nor women suddenly becoming far more choosey amid rising promiscuity; rather, it’s just that marriage is being delayed, which means that rates of marriage-status-controlled celibacy that aren’t historically extremely  unusual result in very unusual rates of total population-wide sexlessness.”

Male sexlessness, Stone concluded, is mostly to do with how the economy has changed: people now spend more years in school, a phenomenon which is associated with later-age marriage; and more years living at home with parents due to rising costs of housing.

Sexual Marxism

Although technically not a study, some incels have interpreted the work of philosopher Karl Marx to support a view of “sexual Marxism,” whereby the government would allocate sexual partners for every man and woman calculated on the basis of sexual worth such as looks and wealth.

According to Vox, this “elaborate sociopolitical” doctrine is a way of explaining “their sexual failures, one that centers on the idea that women are shallow, vicious, and only attracted to hyper-muscular men. They see this as a profound injustice against men like them, who suffer an inherent genetic disadvantage through no fault of their own.”

In the world of sexual Marxism, sex is seen as the greatest inequality. Incels are the proletariat, while Chads are the bourgeoisie.

One self-identified incel, who also called the ideology Marxist-Rodgerism, the latter after Elliot Rodger, has stated that sexual Marxism also means the “sexuality of women should be evenly spread among society.”

Sexual Marxism also assumes that sex, which is sold as a service in the form of prostitution, can be reduced to a commodity. Incels who call for sexual Marxism also argue that sex is a right, which can be interpreted as an advocation for rape.

“The Rush from Judgment”

Another oft-cited work is the 1997 essay The Rush from Judgment by psychiatrist Theodore Dalrymple. Taken in isolation, this opinion piece functions as mainstream conservative commentary on modern social ills, with a slight bias in its coverage of the issues affecting Dalrymple’s female patients.

In only a single sentence do the world views of Dalrymple and the incel movement appear to align: “No doubt future social historians will find the contradiction between our concern about sexual abuse, on the one hand, and our connivance at and indifference to precocious sexual activity, on the other, as curious as we find the contrast between Victorian sexual prudery and the vast size of the Victorian demimonde.”

This connection isn’t further explored. However, for the incel audience – and that of the wider “manosphere” – a psychiatrist equating sexual freedom and sexual assault in a single sentence in the midst of a 3,000-word article becomes a persuasive argument, given that Dalrymple is seen as an authority figure.

“Why Don’t Smart Teens Have Sex? A Behavioral Genetic Approach”

This study was cited under “IQ” by u/MomentaryMadness in his post compiling sources.

The abstract reads:

“Academic achievement and cognitive ability have been shown to predict later age at first sexual intercourse. Using a sample of 536 same-sex twin pairs who were followed longitudinally from adolescence to early adulthood, this study tested whether relations between intelligence, academic achievement and age at first sex were due to unmeasured genetic and environmental differences between families. Twins who differed in their intelligence or their academic achievement did not differ in their age at first sex. Rather, the association between intelligence and age at first sex could be attributed entirely to unmeasured environmental differences between families, whereas the association between academic achievement and age at first sex could be attributed entirely to genetic factors.”

There is no provided explanation for why this study is relevant. One potential interpretation is that incels believe themselves to have high IQs and be good at school, and therefore to also be genetically predisposed to having sex later in life.

The study reports that 75 percent of all participants had sex by age 19. There were 67 out of 1072 participants who had not had sex by the time they were 24-32 years old, and they “did not differ from non-virgins with regards to intelligence, academic achievement, race/ethnicity, or socioeconomic status.” Which is to say that drawing the conclusion that one must be academically predisposed (which is the one variable that could be attributed entirely to genetic factors here) because one is a virgin at a later age is attributing one effect’s cause to another phenomenon entirely. The 67 people who had not had sex by age 32 were not “smarter” than those that did in any measurable way, and we have no reason to believe their situation was purely involuntary.

The study also reports that there were only 9 pairs of twins where both twins reported being virgins at the 24-32 range. Which is to say that 59 percent of the older virgins had a twin who was not a virgin.

The study also provides a table with high-IQ and high-academic achievement pairs of twins, their median age of first sex, and their standard deviations. The table is replicated here:

Table 1

Mean age at first sex for twins concordant and discordant for IQ and GPA.

  All Twins MZ Twins DZ Twins
 
IQ Comparison Group* N M SD N M SD N M SD
1. Low IQ / Twin Low IQ 325 16.76 2.82 185 16.71 2.56 140 16.82 3.14
2. Low IQ / Twin High IQ 105 17.54 2.79 46 17.50 2.84 59 17.58 2.78
3. High IQ / Twin Low IQ 102 17.17 2.47 44 17.18 2.20 58 17.16 2.67
4. High IQ / Twin High IQ 269 18.01 3.03 156 18.48 3.06 113 17.38 2.89
GPA Comparison Group **


                 
1. Low GPA / Twin Low GPA 238 16.79 2.67 125 17.02 2.70 113 16.54 1.63
2. Low GPA / Twin High GPA 138 17.07 3.07 66 17.20 3.43 72 16.96 2.71
3. High GPA / Twin Low GPA 122 17.19 2.88 58 17.05 2.63 64 17.31 3.11
4. High GPA / Twin High GPA 303 17.94 2.89 182 18.04 2.71 121 17.79 3.15
*Low IQ” twins scored less than 100 on the AHPVT;
“High IQ” twins scored above 100.
**“Low GPA” twins reported average grades that were C’s or D’s,
whereas “High GPA” twins reported average grades that were A’s or B’s.

Of particular interest are comparison groups labelled “4”. In the IQ case, the median age was 18.01 and the standard deviation was 3.03. While in the academic achievement case, the median age was 17.94 and the standard deviation was 2.89. Using the 68–95–99.7 rule, we can deduce that in the high IQ case, 68% of the participants had had sex by age 21, 95 percent by age 24, and 99.7 had sex by age 27. For high academic achievement, we can run the same numbers, and come up with 99.7 percent of high IQ twins having sex by age 26. Given that the last “wave” followed up on people aged 24-32, there is no reason to think the 67 virgins would remain so indefinitely.

It is also the case that this study focused on 534 pairs of twins, 259 of whom were female. This suggests that even if academic achievement correlating with later age of first sex was a problem leading to becoming an incel, it is not a “male” problem. It is also the case that the study refers to 1072 participants, but 534 pairs of twins, where 534 * 2 = 1068, not 1072. So there are four participants that seem to have come out of nowhere in between the gathering of the data and the analysis of the results.

A study where 75 percent of participants had sex by age 19 and 6.25 percent of the people in question (a 6.25 percent that was not found to be different from the rest of the group in any statistically significant way across any of the measures used at that) did not have sex by age 32 does not support the idea that having high academic achievement condemns one to sexless existence.

You can edit or expand this story

Edit

History for stories "Examining studies cited by incels"

Select two items to compare revisions

27 May 2018

10:43:58, 27 May 2018 . .‎ Ed Upright (Updated → restored summary)
10:42:26, 27 May 2018 . .‎ Ed Upright (Updated → additions)
10:22:16, 27 May 2018 . .‎ Jazi Zilber (Updated → The study where top men report sleeping with more women can have multiple explanations. Added the d)

26 May 2018

22:07:36, 26 May 2018 . .‎ Charles Anderson (Updated → update)

25 May 2018

21:21:55, 25 May 2018 . .‎ Oriana Carciente (Updated → Added a section on the "IQ" paper and what it does not imply. Changed the sex distribution part.)

21 May 2018

12:10:17, 21 May 2018 . .‎ Ed Upright (Updated → changed image to fit thumbnail)
12:08:19, 21 May 2018 . .‎ Ed Upright (Updated → image crop)
11:21:27, 21 May 2018 . .‎ Burhan Wazir (Updated → updated)
11:10:41, 21 May 2018 . .‎ Linh Nguyen (Updated → added 80/20 rule)

18 May 2018

19:21:47, 18 May 2018 . .‎ Fiona Apps (Updated → Publishing)
18:24:42, 18 May 2018 . .‎ Steve Matsumoto (Updated → Fix the misspelling of Milo Yiannopoulos's name.)
16:30:34, 18 May 2018 . .‎ Fiona Apps (Updated → Adding nofollow tag)
09:46:08, 18 May 2018 . .‎ Linh Nguyen (Updated → accepted edits, slight revision)

17 May 2018

19:45:03, 17 May 2018 . .‎ ORyan McEntire (Updated → The definition of Chad was slightly incorrect. Chads aren't always considered "genetically superior")
11:55:30, 17 May 2018 . .‎ Linh Nguyen (Updated → summary)
11:50:42, 17 May 2018 . .‎ Linh Nguyen (Updated → changed community to group)
11:41:09, 17 May 2018 . .‎ Ed Upright (Updated → publish)
11:36:39, 17 May 2018 . .‎ Ed Upright (Updated → save)
11:33:22, 17 May 2018 . .‎ Ed Upright (Updated → save)
11:00:32, 17 May 2018 . .‎ Linh Nguyen (Updated → editing)
11:00:08, 17 May 2018 . .‎ Linh Nguyen (Updated → editing)
10:59:56, 17 May 2018 . .‎ Linh Nguyen (Updated → editing)
10:00:30, 17 May 2018 . .‎ Linh Nguyen (Updated → editing)
01:07:30, 17 May 2018 . .‎ Chuck Thompson (Updated → Copyedit, changed subheds)

16 May 2018

23:07:57, 16 May 2018 . .‎ Chuck Thompson (Updated → copy edit. saving changes for now, more TK)

15 May 2018

15:01:46, 15 May 2018 . .‎ Linh Nguyen (Updated → editing)
14:39:24, 15 May 2018 . .‎ Linh Nguyen (Updated → editing)
14:11:32, 15 May 2018 . .‎ Linh Nguyen (Updated → editing)

Talk for Story "Examining studies cited by incels"

Talk about this Story

  1. Other

    “Many incels quote a rule of thumb that 20% of men have 80% of the sex. ”

    Regarding this, there’s an interesting question about the conceptual nature of it. Namely, there is a difference between “80% of the sex” and 80% of the women. One could have a relationship with 5 different women and have sex once a month, or a relationship with one woman and have sex 10 times a month, and in that scenario of two people, one person has access to 90.9% of the sex and 16% of the women, while the other has access to 9.1% of the sex and 83% of the women.

    I do not know if there is any source measuring how often people have sex. That said, it seems implausible to me that men exist who can “hoard” all the sex, in that sexual interactions have a bit of a maximum cap on their “consumption” so to speak.

    That said, we can probably get a rough idea. Around 360,000 people are born every day. 65% of pregnancies ended in a live birth in 2008 (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr60/nvsr60_07.pdf ). So we can roughly estimate that 360K is roughly 65% of pregnancies. So there’s at least 554K times someone had sex which resulted in a pregnancy, of which 360K result in births, every day.

    So how often does sex result in pregnancy?

    There’s something like an average 5% chance of getting pregnant if you have sex at a random time of the month (I found this here but a better source would be better http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20120313-sex-in-the-city-or-elsewhere ). So if every day 554K pregnancies get started, and those are around 5% of the times people have sex, we’re looking at 11M sexual encounters a day.

    That’s 4,044M sexual encounters every year. Or 4B.

    There are some 3.8B men in the world. And 20% of that is 760M men.

    80% of 4B is 3.2B. That’s 4 sexual encounters every day for a year. According to these enthusiastic couples (https://www.health24.com/Sex/News/how-many-times-could-you-have-sex-in-a-day-20171102) that’s pretty up there in terms of feasibility for one day, let alone every single day for a year. That is also far above the point at which “more sex” means “more happiness” according to these people (http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1948550615616462 ) which is 1/week.

  2. Other

    At one point, soon after the Alex Minassien Shooting, I visited Incels.me to see what all the discussion was about, and I found a forum announcement claiming that Alex was never active on incels.me (or the sister sites) and that the community doesn’t support illegal activity. I, for the life of me cannot seem find this right now. But just thought that was an interesting reaction to think about. Thanks for this article. I’m seeing more and more incel language on the internet, I’ve met a lot more men claiming I’m a ‘white knight’ and that I must be an alpha.

    1. Rewrite

      Hi Suchiththa! Yes, the Incels.me site don’t actually support any violent activities. And yes, picking up on the terminology is so important to understand who may or may not be an incel.

  3. Other

    The right is so stupid calling everything socialist etc. ‘Although technically not a study, some incels have interpreted the work of philosopher Karl Marx to support a view of “sexual Marxism,” whereby the government would allocate sexual partners for every man and woman calculated on the basis of sexual worth such as looks and wealth.’

    As someone who has read many primary Marxist sources as well as Marxist-Leninist sources I’ve never heard anything like this at all. I think that many modern Marxist Leninists find modern day feminism pretty crap so the right sounds stupid calling modern day feminism marxist. Actually modern day feminism is just liberalism and nothing more.

    I suggest anyone that wants an actual marxist interpretation of the family etc go read Origins of the Family by Friedrich Engels.

      1. Rewrite
  4. Rewrite

    Incel article May 15 “New Yorker” by Tolentino. https://goo.gl/ApDVhQ

    1. Rewrite

      “What incels want is extremely limited and specific: they want unattractive, uncouth, and unpleasant misogynists to be able to have sex on demand with young, beautiful women. They believe that this is a natural right.

      “It is men, not women, who have shaped the contours of the incel predicament. It is male power, not female power, that has chained all of human society to the idea that women are decorative sexual objects, and that male worth is measured by how good-looking a woman they acquire. Women—and, specifically, feminists—are the architects of the body-positivity movement, the ones who have pushed for an expansive redefinition of what we consider attractive. “Feminism, far from being Rodger’s enemy,” Srinivasan wrote, “may well be the primary force resisting the very system that made him feel—as a short, clumsy, effeminate, interracial boy—inadequate.” Women, and L.G.B.T.Q. people, are the activists trying to make sex work legal and safe, to establish alternative arrangements of power and exchange in the sexual market.

      “We can’t redistribute women’s bodies as if they are a natural resource; they are the bodies we live in. We can redistribute the value we apportion to one another—something that the incels demand from others but refuse to do themselves.”

  5. Rewrite

    One last thought. Is there a connection between the incel movement and white supremacy or the alt-right? I’ve read a few articles that say there is an overlap between the communities.

    1. Rewrite

      There is some connection, such as the case with Elliot Rodger who believed the white race was superior.

  6. Rewrite

    I thought these points were interesting and possibly some of this information may be worth including in the article:

    According to the GSS, “Historically, never-married men have reported higher sexual frequency than never-married women. However, in the 2014 and 2016 GSS samples, that changed: never-married men now report slightly lower sexual frequency than never-married women. This is mostly because men are reporting less sex, not that women are reporting more sex. Female sexual frequency is essentially unchanged since 2000.”

    “On the one hand, the incel story of rising male celibacy seems confirmed here; more and more never-married young men are experiencing long sexual droughts. But on the other hand, incels are basically wrong in suggesting that virtually all women are promiscuous: female sexlessness has been roughly stable over time and indeed has actually risen since the period from 2005-2010.”

    https://ifstudies.org/blog/male-sexlessness-is-rising-but-not-for-the-reasons-incels-claim

    1. Rewrite

      “Two other large surveys, the National Survey of Family Growth (NSFfG), and the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES), also ask about sexual behavior. Their results do not confirm the trends seen in the GSS.”

      And,”Many incels quote a rule of thumb that 20% of men have 80% of the sex. Is this true?”

      “According to the GSS, the top 20% of the most sexually active never-married young men have about 50-60% of the sex. It’s about the same for women, and these shares are basically stable over time.”

      “The core incel story about what’s going on here—that a few Chads are hoarding a growing share of Stacies, depriving incels of mates—just doesn’t hold up. The top 20% of unmarried men are having about the same share of total sexual activity or sexual partnerings as has been the case for decades.”

      It notes that the population of true incels (people who are actually involuntarily celibate) is on the rise. “The 68% increase from 2002 to 2015 in the incel share of the male, never-married, 22-35-year-old population is mostly due to a decline in marriage. Rising involuntary virginity among never-marrieds accounts for around 27 percentage points of the increase, with the other 41 percentage points coming from a declining married share of the population.”

      It’s possible the increase of men living at home is a factor. “About 8% of never-married young men living with their parents are involuntarily sexless, and another 7% are voluntarily so. Among men not living with their parents, it’s just 4% involuntarily sexless, and 2% voluntarily so.”

      https://ifstudies.org/blog/male-sexlessness-is-rising-but-not-for-the-reasons-incels-claim

    2. Rewrite

      Wow, that is interesting! Thanks so much for this, I’ll add to it.

  7. Rewrite

    Unique and interesting article. I think for greater context, there should be quick explanation of what a Stacy is, since a definition is given for Chads. Even just to say that a “Stacy” is someone who is promiscuous and primarily only has sex with Chads.

    1. Rewrite

      Thank you Kat, I’ll add that in.

Subscribe to our newsletter and be the first to collaborate on our developing stories:

Support Us

Why this is important and why you should care about facts, journalism and democracy

WikiTribune Open menu Close Search Like Previous page Next page Back Next Open menu Close menu Play video RSS Feed Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Reddit Follow us on Instagram Follow us on Youtube Connect with us on Linkedin Email us Message us on Facebook Messenger Save for Later