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    “In 12 weeks they could make hundreds of thousands”

    This statement may need more context. Does “12 weeks” refer to 12 weeks from now? Or is there some kind of 12-week production cycle?

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    I can see the point of this project but it seems to me elaborate for a “burger.” If that is all you want, a Quornburger is available for less than $0.50. A burger is minced meat with a binding agent. Surely their aim is to replace a steak, a much more valuable product. Since we are approaching a possibility of growing organs, growing the kind of muscle to produce an acceptable steak has to be the object. This research is a step on the road, but I can’t see it as an end product.

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    I’d like to suggest talking about companies like Memphis Meats who have successfully commercialised lab-grown meat! They had a solid round of successful crowd-funding and my understanding is that they are well on their way.

    http://www.memphismeats.com

    https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/memphis-meats-meat-without-slaughter-environment–2#/

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      That is a great idea! If noone edits it within 24 hours, I might do it myself!

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        Thanks Wild Jerry. I don’t suppose you have had any time to contribute to the story yet?

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      Thank you. That sound’s like a good idea. Memphis Meats is certainly interesting. Would it be possible for you to add it to the story?

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    Claims for artificial meat as well as genetically modified food to meet the supposed “world food shortage” should be juxtaposed to data that shows the excessive consumption of food leading to obesity, diabetes, heart disease, strokes et cetera in the developed world and how a better diet in the developed world would make more food available for those who have less.

    The “smart Alec” answer, “well name one” when mother told you to eat all of the food on your plate because there were children starving in India no longer applies. We can name the children who are starving in India, Sudan, Somalia, Yemen and we can feed them if some others want to eat less.

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      I completely agree, and there are a lot of other things that are being glossed over whenever artificial meat is talked about.

      It is not even necessary for us to eat less (we should do so for our health however). The real story with world hunger is the amount of arable land in the undeveloped world where there is little to no farming. In many cases farming is made impossible by outside influences including military action, and in other cases it is simply not viable due to international competition that is heavily subsidised, unfair trade practices and the biggest one: lack of infrastructure.

      We (food secure wealthy nations) have had viable solutions to these problems for decades and simply refuse to implement them because exploitation has been a way of life for so long. Looking to science for technical solutions to world poverty is like an alcoholic trying to get a liver transplant so that he does not have to stop drinking. The idea that if we stopped meat production, we would use all that land to feed the starving of the world is laughable.

      One other thing I think should always be mentioned in a discussion about artificial meat: we have had a viable, sustainable meat substitute for hamburgers for thousands of years. Insects. In many countries these are still farmed and eaten but in terms of the nutritional profile and reportedly the taste, they are much closer to beef than the vegetarian alternatives. I say reportedly because I live in Europe and despite being very interested in this there is nowhere I can go to get processed insect based meat substitutes. They are simply not available here.

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    There are quite a few unsupported statements. Lets try to make this as objective and well supported as possible. A few points:

    – Lab-grown meat is exciting, and will LIKELY (not definitely) be a viable way to produce meat

    – There are many other ways that meat or meat alternatives can be produced without using Lab-grown meat

    – Lab-grown meat is still in it’s infancy, so please try not to use this article to hype up something. I’ve seen and discussed this field with experts in the field, it has a long, long ways to go before it will be viable

    – Another possibility is that we leave things at the status quo, which means cutting down more rainforest to produce soy meal. This is a very complex, interconnected issue, so framing the scope of this article is important

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    The title of this article suggests that this is an overview of the possible ways to supply meat in the future, but only addresses one of them. The title should either be revised to indicate it is specifically targeting lab grown meat, or it should take a broader perspective on this issue.

    Topics to flesh out including:

    – review of the interconnected problems within meat production/consumption

    – dialogue on the history of development (agricultural productivity versus demand)

    – supply and demand projection, and where this can be filled from (Amazon rainforest soy production, etc.)

    – and several of the opportunity spaces for alleviating this problem (aka. improved efficiency of current food usage, closing of gaps via food transformation, alternative sources including lab grown but also including aquaculture, vegetable formulated substitutes, etc.)

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    Adding a photo of a raw t-bone steak where it would be visible along with the headline would work fantastically. (Something like: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:T-bone-raw-MCB.jpg)

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    EP
    Evan Prodromou

    The headline is a little too clever.

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