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    I disagree with WikiTribune’s assessment here in that espionage can be treasonous and it does not necessitate war. The Rosenbergs were put to death for espionage. Had they been American citizens, their actions would have been treasonous. Aldrich Ames, Robert Hanssen were both convicted of espionage, but that isn’t to say their actions weren’t treasonous, they just weren’t charged with treason by federal prosecutors.

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      “I disagree with WikiTribune’s assessment here in that espionage can be treasonous and it does not necessitate war.”

      As the fact check said, treasonous and treason are often used to mean different things. Also the legal and the common usages are different. I think you are conflating them as well as conflating espionage with treason. These are different crimes.

      “Had they been American citizens, their actions would have been treasonous.”

      Both Julius and Ethel were US citizens.

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    So treason only kicks in when currently at war with a country?
    I wonder if people during the cold war could have been tried as a traitor if they were found to have given secrets to the enemy. I bet some exceptions would be made.

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      I have never heard of someone being charged with treason per se for giving secrets to the Soviets. Espionage, yes, but not treason. That’s only for aiding an enemy during wartime.

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