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    Hi Miguel,

    I think there’s a misunderstanding here. When the Guardian said ” 80% of EU citizens against biannual time changes,” that means they are against the status quo of daylight savings. So they voted for keeping summer hours. The Guardian’s claim is indeed TRUE.

    I’m not sure about the second claim either. I don’t understand Portuguese, but based off Google Translate, I don’t see the claim that less than 1 percent of each member state voted. While only .33 percent of Portugal voted in referendum, the article acknowledges that nearly 4 percent of Germans participated.

    Since this article has been published and thus considered complete, I will make these changes immediately. If I’m wrong, please let me know and I’ll amend as necessary.

    To avoid confusion in the future, try to format fact checks with CLAIM, and it’s source. In this case it would be…

    Claim: “More than 80% of EU citizens against biannual time changes” – Guardian.

    Claim: “Only one percent of each European Commission member state participated in the referendum.” – Publico, Portugal

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    Ingrid, Manuel, thank you for your contributions and fact-checking. Whenever you are done editing, feel free to publish.

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    This story seems to be accurate. It’s a very common case of mistaking the sample (5 million people) with the universe (513 million people).
    Some portuguese media outlets reported it correctly, and were careful to examine the per-country statistics, which vary wildly.
    Sample below:
    https://www.dn.pt/vida-e-futuro/interior/maioria-muito-clara-de-84-a-favor-do-fim-da-mudanca-da-hora—-comissao-europeia-9783506.html

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    Hi Miguel, congrats on starting your first fact checking report !

    this sounds like really interesting claim to check, would be great if you add sources showing different voting results, then I think we can cross check all of them with official published ones.

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      I’m sorry, it was my mistake, I did not notice the sources to the right you added, let’s hyperlink them on the body of the report.

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      Thank you Mohamed.
      The only other link I found was this http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-18-5302_en.pdf. So which one is it? 80% of the population of 80% of 1% of the population?

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        yes, I edited your very interesting content to fit the whole WT fact checking report, you have a nice intro, so I just added Claim and Fact checking headlines. I hope very soon other will join to check the claims.

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