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    Could you go into more depth on the first part of Corbyn’s tweet? I think fact checking that would be brilliant and much more interesting…

    “Print too often sets the broadcast agenda, even though it is wedded so firmly to the Tories politically and to corporate interests more generally.

    Just because it’s on the front page of The Sun or the Mail doesn’t automatically make it news. #ChangeTheMedia”

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    In the context of this article, I think it would be interesting if Corbyn would have actually elaborated on the implications of the media ownership and why he opposes it, regardless of the truth behind it.

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    I would say that the second claim is “mostly true”.

    Corbyn likely got his claim here

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/oct/21/uk-media-plurality-threatened-by-dominant-group-of-large-firms-report

    Also see the study it references

    http://www.mediareform.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Who_owns_the_UK_media-report_plus_appendix1.pdf

    The Guardian article says “The analysis shows that just six major regional newspaper groups own 81% of local newspapers, with the remaining 56 publishers in the UK accounting for 19%.”

    He likely made a unintentional error in stating 5 instead of 6 companies.

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      Hi Nick. I contacted Labour’s press office to find out where he had gotten the information. PO replied he got it from the Audit Bureau of Circulation. I then contacted ABC to verify the information. They replied with the info that’s in the story.

      If you’re interested, you can see full record of my email exchange with both in the “Sources and References” section at the bottom. Thanks.

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        DU
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        I still think the “false’ rating much too harsh. The reason is because there is conflicting data. The mediareform study above has the top five local papers at over 74% (p. 8).

        That’s pretty close to 81 so that’s why I would say it’s “mostly true”.

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          There is no conflicting data. Labour press office confirmed Corbyn got the info from ABC. ABC sent over stats that conflicted with one of Corbyn’s claims.

          Regarding MRC: Neither the press office nor Corbyn mentioned Media Reform Coalition – I even specifically asked whether they had gotten the info from that report you mention. And if you read the report, you’ll find that MRC got its info from ABC (check the footnotes).

          Additionally, the MRW report uses regional newspaper “titles” as a metric, rather than circulation, because “circulation figures are not available for local publishers not audited by ABC.” This would still leave Corbyn’s second claim wanting because “titles” and “circulation average” are not the same thing.

          But this is neither here nor there since, as I mentioned above, Labour PO said Corbyn got his info from ABC, not MRC.

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            DU
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            We should be checking the claims of Corbyn’s tweet, not the Labour Press Office. Corbyn did not mention his source in the tweet so it’s unfair to use that in the check. Corbyn also made no distinction between titles and circulation in the tweet. He used the word “control”

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              Labour PO didn’t make any claim, they simply confirmed Corbyn got the info from ABC.

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