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    I do think hitting businesses is a key part to solving this problem. Put enough money behind something and it usually gets results. Think the numbers shown largely support that. We might not be able to dispose all of the plastic waste we make but we can at least stop making so much of it while we come up with a solution. It just has to be profitable.

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    The initial part of the story talks about England and Britain as if they are the same. They are not. Scotland introduced the bag charge before England and I would assume has a different set of stats. I will try to find and add details for the Scottish scheme.

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      Good point Jamie. I have changed it. Thank you for spotting.

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    One missing aspect is the overall plastic usage vs number of bags.

    In many cases disposable bags are replaced with sturdy plastic bags. 10 bags may be saved by one reusable bag, but that bag has 5x the amount of plastic in those 10 bags.

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      Hi Daniel. I think the countries so far mentioned are examples of plastic bags being charged for, rather than banning the use of single use plastic bags. However, if banning single use plastic bags, and charging for reusable plastic bags means people buy reusable plastic bags at a level that is worse than had they just used single use plastic bags for free that is certainly an interesting point. Do you have any examples of where that has occurred? If so could you please add where this happened in the article and link to it?

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        Sorry, I think of charging/banning in the same spectrum of addressing the issue.

        I can’t find the source that I’m thinking of, but this article from the metro is the general concept: https://metro.co.uk/2017/12/31/why-bags-for-life-could-actually-be-terrible-for-the-environment-6849337/

        Basically that bags for life should be much more expensive to represent the amount of plastic that is going in to them, and the disproportionate amount of time they get reused.

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