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    I’d love to see you compile polling data. You could create these ongoing encyclopedic feeds that track the popularity of this goverment and become the definitive source for the information.

    I also think that it is important to keep tabs on online bullies and trolls. Not sure if this is an issue in Spain, but in many parts of the world women are specifically targeted in this way to dis-empower them and undermine their credibility both in business and politics.

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      That’s true, Zuzanna. And the trolling of women is universal I suspect – you might be familiar with Caroline Criado-Perez, and her hounding after she campaigned for a woman on a British bank-note.
      If you have any links that are useful, please forward them, or start a story yourself.

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    I think we should do a profile on each member, and briefly discuss who they were chosen over.

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      Good idea. Profiles should be straightforward, the second point perhaps more contested.

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    Is it worth mentioning other countries with high levels of women in government, like Rwanda and Bolivia, and compare with Spain?

    I found that info here: https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2016/07/29/487360094/invisibilia-no-one-thought-this-all-womans-debate-team-could-crush-it

    More info on Bolivia: https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Bolivia-Leads-South-America-in-Womens-Political-Inclusion-20160405-0040.html

    I believe it’s just the lower levels of government that have female majorities in those countries, but it’s interesting. What caused the increase in women in politics in these countries? (Culture, conflict, or simply one person trying to to change things up?) Rwanda was certainly affected by the mass deaths of men during a Civil War, which left the county 60%+ women, but it seemed like the leadership of one man is what enacted the change. Legislation was used in Bolivia to promote the political participation of women in public-decision making, and they’ve achieved just over 50% women in government.

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      Thanks, interesting points there. Rwanda appears to mirror the often-quoted description of women entering the western work force after world war one and the decimation of the male population.
      A couple of people are working on angles and so there could be more up on the site next week.

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    It’s also the first time that two gay men are in a cabinet. As Andrea has said it doesn’t mean anything per se – actually, the home office minister it’s quite conservative and, while being judge has had several issues with tortures – but it’s quite outstanding if we think about how homophobic spanish society is.

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      I think that could be a really interesting way of covering this – do you have any resources or know of any studies that measure homophobia in Spanish society, or any reading items on the two cabinet appointees?

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      Nicolas, I have just seen your suggestion to interview Irantzu Varela. I think that could be a great idea and will try to get in touch with her.

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    If a female majority is a first time in western countries (I suspect itis not, but I am not sure), it should be noted.

    In any case, the focus should be on the background of the members-of-cabinet, on the majority supporting the cabinet (from Catalan Parties to Podemos) and on the role of this government (transitional?).

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      Sorry but Ciudadanos has not supported the new cabinet in any way.

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        Thanks Francesco, that could be a really interesting way of covering this. We definitely don’t want to oversimplify the story or place meaning where there is none, so this could be a way to do that.

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        Thanks Nicolás, I updated my comment.

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    You should try to avoid improper signification about this data.
    It’s true, the number of female politicians in this government is a lot higher than what we’re used to have in most democracies, but this doesn’t mean anything “per se”.
    It could simply reflect that in Spain there’s a cultural climate than is finally accostumed with the idea than women can be as competent as men, and we can be happy about this, but if we consider those numbers as a proof of novelty and competence of the nee government, it’s an improper deduction (and it’s also discriminatory for the women!).

    In conclusion, it’s ok if those numbers are not even commented, it’s a good thing if they’re covered for what they are (just the first time for something that should be pretty normal). If someone have some theory about what this could mean, it’s fine, but pay attention to avoid simplification. We don’t need any more sensationalist “news” like this

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      Thanks Andrea – that is the question, how we should assess this significance. And you’re correct, oversimplification should be avoided.

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