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    Also, plan to translate this story in Italian: do i just copy the html and paste it in a new WP post, and then translate it, or is there a better way? Remember that a while back there was a discussion about WT translations, localization, etc.

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      Hi Bernardo. Yep, just copy the text into a new story/html and translate away. When do you reckon you could have it ready? Thanks!

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        Thanks Bernardo, we have your translation. A member who speaks Italian is doing a read over and then we will publish.

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    wonderful to know that Wikitribue is covering this important topic (and kudos to George and others for the story); I’m following these issues since a long time and particularly the launch of Pollan’s book for my own research/interest and just wrote an extensive review plenty of links, etc., it’s in Italian but hopefully still useful: https://psichedelia.info/2018/05/21/pollan2/

    among many resources available about that book, i would warmly recommend these two podcasts, on Tim Ferris Show and Ezra Klein (Vox Media) Show:
    https://tim.blog/2018/05/06/michael-pollan-how-to-change-your-mind/
    https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/vox/the-ezra-klein-show

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      Thanks Berny, will have a read 🙂

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        and a listen, especially 🙂

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          Definitely. Have you listened to this podcast episode? https://after-on.com/episodes/027

          Lucas Mesdal suggested it a few comments down and it’s super interesting.

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            will do — in the meantime, I’m halfway through Pollan’s book, and will go to his presentation next week (I live in the US southwest); I can write a short review later on here, if we want to have a follow-up on this hot topic…

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              That’d be awesome 😀

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                done deal, for the first week of june

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                  Hey Berny. Did you manage to attend the presentation?

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                    yep, also took a few pics, chatted a bit with Michael and published a short post in italian(https://psichedelia.info/2018/06/01/pollan-live-rigore-speranze-e-prudenza-del-futuro-psichedelico/) ; tomorrow plan to start a draft on WT in english about book & event, so ppl can contribute/edit and we can publish it before his book presentations in London (June 11-14: http://www.rigb.org/whats-on/events-2018/june/public-how-to-change-your-mindhttps://www.ticketweb.uk/event/5×15-exploring-the-new-science-the-tabernacle-tickets/8382995?pl=5×15)

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                      Great! Thanks

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    Just started listening to an audio book on this very topic:
    How to Change Your Mind: The New Science of Psychedelics
    by Michael Pollan
    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/39801304-how-to-change-your-mind

    Great article!

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      Thanks David. Yeah Michael’s book is a really good overview of what’s been going on in this field. Hope you enjoy it!

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    I would recommend for you to listen to the 27th episode of “The After On Podcast”. They interview a couple who is running the largest clinical trial of psychedelics for depression treatment ever. Name of those interviewed Katya Malievskaia and George Goldsmith

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      Awesome, will do. Thanks!

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    I think this story would be well complemented by a discussion of the ongoing debate around the efficacy and safety of conventional psychotropic drugs (particularly anti-depressants). To focus in on anti-depressants, there has been a fairly significant rise in their prescription, yet not a corresponding decrease in the prevalence or intensity of depression, and I have seen rising concern over dependence they may produce (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/07/health/antidepressants-withdrawal-prozac-cymbalta.html), as well as the overall risk/benefit. I found this article: https://qz.com/1162154/30-years-after-prozac-arrived-we-still-buy-the-lie-that-chemical-imbalances-cause-depression/ to be an interesting jumping-off point.

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      Thanks William, this is something that will be addressed. Thanks for the links.

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    Fantastic article.

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      Thanks!

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    I think it would be very interesting to investigate the factors that are causing the perpetuation of the drug war. There are obviously political and economic concerns to ending this self-destructive set of policies.

    And another area of it benefits from investigation is the degree to which psychedelics can cause positive lifestyle changes that help people who do not have mental health issues, grow emotionally, spiritually, and psychologically.

    An interesting website we can explore: http://www.maps.org

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      Thanks Frank. MAPS is on the story’s list of resources. Definitely a good one. I have an interview scheduled with Mark Kleiman from NYU and will ask those questions.

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        Excellent, George… I may have another person (a mental health professional) who would be interesting to interview. I’m waiting for his permission to share his information with wiki Tribune.

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          That’d be awesome, thanks!

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      “Investigate the factors that are causing the perpetuation of the drug war.” This is pure political discourse. There is no rational explanation as to why alcohol and tobacco are legal even though both have been demonstrated time and time again to be lethal and damaging to society. Intense lobby and money cannot be the entire explanation since other drugs have the same potential for profits. I also think there is a cultural aspect to it. Many of the illegal drugs are relatively new for Westerners (alcohol has been consumed for thousands of years) whereas LSD was synthesized 50 years ago. Makes conservative populace concerned and anxious and it’s a great way to get votes by the political party that “adheres” to those policies. Of course it’s a bunch of gibberish. Just pure political discourse.

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    Also, a search on micro-dosing in the main Medium app could have some useful ideas if you can get there.
    https://medium.com/search?q=microdosing

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    A prescription or regulated psychoactive substance environment would probably be much safer, that is knowing what dosage is safe, also no doubt pricy as regulated substances sometimes can be for individuals seeking to micro-dose themselves for opening their minds to an expanded set of ideas in the workplace or civilized social activities. Microdosing already has accumulated data on real and potential benefits to humans and has some interesting reporting. Also, pharmacological mind-expanding or various substances that alter human biological brain networks or consciousness have been employed treating PTSD, though much of PTSD could probably be avoided by not sending young humans to kill other humans around the earth, which is another problem. Clear evidence is available regarding various extracts of the Hemp plant(s) used by many nation states for treatments and therapies leveraging conscious and physiological tools enhancing and changing the human experience. In countries like the USA government entities such as the DEA have a budgetary reality that tends to become a reason to add natural or synthesized substances to their list of no no’s. I think it’s known as job justification, and medical sciences be dammed. The current USA’s attorneys general is one such idiot promoting outdated drug enforcement policies despite medical evidence for therapies helpful to society and individuals regarding these substances.

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      Hi Tim, thanks for your comment. Microdosing is really interesting but from what I understand it’s purpose is to promote creativity, focus etc rather than directly dealing with mental health issues like clinical depression. There’s a bunch of anecdotal evidence that suggests it works, although very little scientific research. The Beckley Foundation is currently undertaking a proper study into microdosing, and its results should be really interesting to read.

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