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    Just food for thought:

    For developing stories where readers are being encouraged to check back, it might be better practice to opt for e.g. “Monday morning” etc instead of “this morning” (second paragraph).

    I recognize that each update indicates the date in bold at the top of the section, but as a reader flips through sections/jumps around it might be clearer if days were referred to consistently.

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      Hi Jurg! I absolutely agree and we plan to always refer to the date explicitly instead of “today…” so thanks for pointing this one out. I will change.

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    Just a minor minor detail. I think the tag should be MARIANO RAJOY (or even MARIANO RAJOY BREY) instead of MARIANO BREY.

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      Correct

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        Hi Javier, thanks for flagging that. I just changed the tag.

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    In the section “Why do some Catalans want independence?” :

    I feel there is a bias, suggesting that the problem is mostly a recent question about economics.

    This is not a recent urge. I think it should be argued that the urge among Catalans for independence has been felt for a lot longer than that. I would argue for at least 400 years.

    This is a personal point of view. It comes from living in Catalonia with Catalan relatives 55 years ago.

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      Interesting perspective and we’re going to take a look at it. It certainly dates before Franco of course. Thanks Daniel.

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        Maybe a backgrounder on Catalan independence? I would volunteer unless a community member does. Got all the books!

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          I would appreciate that, Angela. I could use a primer. It could be an eye-opener for me. I only have a personal point of view and not a single book on the subject.

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            Grand, thanks.

            AL

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    The middle section “Catalan leader stops (just) short of declaring independence” seems to repeat the early paragraphs of the story and seems redundant. Perhaps the two sections can be consolidated.

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      Hi. We’re trying out a slightly different format for our developing stories where we cover a story in chronological fashion, so some duplication will happen. We’re doing our best to keep that to a minimum, though. We might rewrite/consolidate this piece into one larger piece of reporting once we stop tracking it. What do you think?

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        If it’s a timeline could you have update times listed over to the left of the article… I’m sure this has been discussed, but a little like guardian UK when there is a developing story. I think it’s a great idea rather than rewriting the same article, showing the flow of how events unfold.

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          Great idea, will bring it up with our tech development team. Thanks!

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        Perhaps if the story is being updated it should appear in live blogging format with the latest at the top with a date/time stamp. I think readers will be familiar with that format.

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          Hi, just discussing – the problem I find with that style is it doesn’t work if you are new to the story – on The Guardian site it is often frustrating wading through updates which give an incomplete picture when you want to know the main point.

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    Compliments on this story, which I’m very close to. Comprehensive and well-put together.

    Angela

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      Thanks Angela.

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