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    For someone unfamiliar with the incestous nuances of Irish politics, North and South, this is a first rate primer, balanced, informative and as comprehensive as possible in limited space. The cavils expressed by some others are of Minot import overall. Would love to read more of SF and its Anti-Brexit/Anti-EU dichotomy. I’ve read Deaglán De Breadún in the Irish Times for years and found him to be a thorough and inquiring reporter. If this is the standard of journalism we can expect from Wikitribune then I’m in.

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      Many thanks Ray, and I’m sure Deaglán – who might join the TALK – will be pleased by your comments. There’s a companion piece on the cost of any future Irish unification publishing this weekend.

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      Thanks for your very gratifying comments. You might like to read my book which should be available for purchase online. It is Power Play: The Rise of Modern Sinn Féin, by Deaglán de Bréadún, published in 2015 by Merrion Press. I also do a column every fortnight in The Irish News – see http://www.irishnews.com

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    The following sentence is unecessary and suggests bias:
    “Sometimes in Ireland it is hard to distinguish a genuine news story from anti-Sinn Féin propaganda.”
    Maybe better: “Sometimes in Ireland it is hard to distinguish a genuine news story from propaganda.” or leave it out?

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      George, I’ll ask Deaglán to take that on board.

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      I don’t see what the problem is. Any objective observer and even some of the party’s rivals will tell you there is considerable hostility among elements of the media towards Sinn Féin. This can create difficulty when one is trying to assess a news story on the party. (I have written critically about the party myself and you can read my critiques at length in my book, Power Play: The Rise of Modern Sinn Féin, published in 2015 by Merrion Press.

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        Thank you for responding. You’re right about the difficulty of assessing genuine news. So I hope you see my difficulty as I’m an impartial reader of an article on a global platform. I have no particular knowledge of the media in Ireland, that seems to be written off in one brief sentence. For me, for this statement to stand, I would expect an embedded reference to independent research in order to substantiate that as factually based (with any opposing view to also be disclosed). If it is as you say, then this should be easy.
        I feel this goes to the heart of what WikiTribune is for.

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          I am an award-winning journalist and author who has been writing for national media since 1976. I don’t make things up. Anyone with even the most cursory knowledge of Sinn Féin coverage in the Irish media knows it can often be very opinionated. If there is any objective and thorough academic assessment of this, it should reach the same conclusion. If you don’t trust journalists like me, maybe you should stick to reading university journals.

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    Also it would be helpful to distinguish Provisional Sinn Féin from Official Sinn Féin in the historical background

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      John, I think there might have been something on that in an earlier version but it was edited for length. As you probably know Irish politics, even just the republican aspect, can be a complicated and daunting subject for new readers, and we hoped this piece would be accessible for all.

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      I would have liked to go into that kind of detail but there wasn’t enough space. It’s dealt with my book on Sinn Féin.

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    The subheading “Inevitable” seems a bit too strong. Arguably nothing in politics is absolutely inevitable.

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      I agree John. The story is a lot weaker on this point – it being only an opinion and related to Dublin – which is important to the subheading (if used at all.)

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        I didn’t write the subheading but I assume most people will go to the trouble of reading the actual text where I wrote “seems inevitable”.

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          *in my book on Sinn Féin

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          I did read it, carefully, hence the comment. I’m glad to see the subheading is now changed to more accurately reflect your words.

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            Thank you, Deaglán

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      Possibly – but the author is an expert observer and feels it is warranted. His actual words were ‘seems inevitable’ so the highlight has fallen victim to brevity.

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      I didn’t write the subheading and the text I wrote says “seems inevitable”.

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