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    For transparency, here is the raw quote from Tim Gowers, send Mon, 8 Jan 2018 14:59:21 +0100

    “The developments in Germany are showing, finally, that academic institutions can negotiate from a position of strength. Personally, I hope that the current impasse will last indefinitely, so that other countries will see that scientists can manage without expensive Big Deals, and publishers will be forced to adopt much less exploitative business models.”

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    Email sent to Elsevier: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 08:24:57 +0100

    Dear Mr Boersma

    Following discussions with WikiTribune staff, viewable here and here (text search “elsevier”), I am approaching Elsevier again for your perspective on story concerning the academic boycott in Germany. The WikiTribune concept is new and unique and I guess you may be evaluating how best to respond. Unlike trad journalism though, the story can evolve. Which means that I can submit a new paragraph summarizing Elsevier’s position at any stage for approval by WikiTribune staff for inclusion. If you decide not to comment, I would appreciate a reply so that WikiTribune knows that that is your position and we can inform our readers that your organization declined the opportunity to comment.​

    with best wishes, Robbie

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    I dont think resigning and starting a new journal which competes is a good solution for the scientific community either. the publisher usually just replaces the editors and then having two journals in the same area helps noone. more of a dialog is needed between editors and publisher.

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      One problem, Achi, is the high cost of open access under the current model. Just yesterday I bought out an Elsevier paywall from my own pocket for €2700. So I know the sums involved. Download from doi:10.1016/j.esr.2017.12.010 in a couple of weeks and enjoy. Robbie.

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    Thanks for the updates, Robbie. It would be desirable to have a comment from Elsevier.

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      I think so. Or otherwise note that they elected not to respond, perhaps: “Elsevier Corporate Communications declined to respond when contacted for their position on the boycott.”. Lets wait till Thursday. Thanks for subbing.

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    I emailed Projekt DEAL to confirm the copy and they replied, timestamped Mon, 08 Jan 2018 15:45:48 +0100, without raising issues regarding accuracy.

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    Email sent to Elsevier, Mon, 8 Jan 2018 14:50:56 +0100

    Harald Boersma
    Director, Corporate Communications
    Elsevier
    Amsterdam

    Dear Mr Boersma

    A news item I lead-authored on the German Projekt DEAL controversy was approved and is now live on WikiTribune:

    Morrison, Robbie and collaborators (8 January 2018). Scholars seek open access in academic journal deal. WikiTribune. London, United Kingdom.

    WikiTribune is a recently launched news website that uses both paid journalists and volunteers to generate news. I am a volunteer.

    I would like to include Elsevier’s point of view in the story. If you could send me a comment by return email I will endeavor to add a paragraph outlining your position.

    with best wishes, Robbie

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    Great, thanks Robbie. It will be live later Monday.

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    I am currently seeking additional quotations from other open access commentators. I will also contact Elsevier once the story is live and I can send their PR department a URL.

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