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    Well, I find concepts like “post-fascist integrity” a little bit forced. The current territory of Spain act as a single demos since 16th century, at least. So in no way it’s the remnant of the unfortunate 40-year long fascist dictatorship ended in 1978.

    What we are seeing these days is the struggle of a section of the resident citizenship of Catalonia to overcome the limits of the Spanish Constitution by force arguments, not political action. Stopped by 85% of the Spanish Senate, the reset election to be held tomorrow Dec 21st is a try to bring waters of political action into limits. My opinion is that it will be necessary a second round with no extravagant candidacies and much few emotions involved to restart the normality of every day’s “small-scale” policy making.

    Tomorrow’s election is for a new mandate of the regional parliament, which has to operate obviously inside the limits of the Law. No more, no less.

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      I cannot see why this comment is flagged as biased, given a factual account of historical and current events.

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        Hi Enrique. I’m not sure if I understood you correctly, but the comment Luis left was written under the “Flag as bias” option on the TALK section. The comment itself hasn’t been marked as biased.

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          I see how Enrique came to that conclusion, though. I’ll talk to Natalia and rethink how we present that… it certainly does look to the casual eye that the comment has been flagged as biased, not that the commenter was raising a concern about bias.

          My current view is that we should do away with those labels completely – too simplistic – and introduce comment subject lines for top-level comments – like section heading at a Wikipedia talk page.

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    Hi George,

    This is an excellent piece on the current state of affairs in Catalonia and the future prospects of this whole political conflict. There are two things that in my opinion could be improved:

    The first one is that there is no mention to “Els Comuns” which is a party that will have an essential role after these elections, for it does not classify itself within any of the two blocs. Since right now it seems that there is almost an absolute draw between the parties on both sides, this party might hold the keys to the future government.

    The second is the map and the linguistic explanation it gives about the regions that speak the Catalan language. It says that it is spoken in some parts of the Balearic Islands, and this is misleading because it is spoken in all four of the main Balearic islands. Every island has a different Catalan dialect. Also, the map does not explain that Catalan is also spoken all over the Valencia Autonomous Region. Although there has been extensive debate about whether Valenciano is actually Catalan, these debates have been more political than linguistic. From a linguistic standpoint, there is no doubt that the language they speak in “La Comunidad Valenciana” is Catalan.

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      Hi Andrew, great suggestions. I’ll talk to Peter to see whether it’s possible to include a brief section on Comuns.

      I’ll also make those amendments to the map’s caption.


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        Hey Andrew. We’ve updated the story to take into account your suggestion. Thanks!

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          Hi George,

          Thank you for taking into account my suggestion.



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