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    9/10

    Good piece, found is quite complex, but the topic is quite complex, so it isn’t avoidable?

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      Thanks Nino! Exactly, the whole topic is very complex.

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    The wealth and political influence of the arrested and why it supposed to be second to Islam in Saudi is not clear to me. In terms of Islam and changes, the young are likely supportive and the aging scholars wield eroding soft power. The younger TV preachers have a wider reach out.

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      Hi Michael, you’re right that young people are the most supportive of liberalisation within the country. And it’s not that political influence is second to Islam per se, but that because the religious establishment is so ingrained within the country and resistant to change that they’re the most difficult to get on board with the modern reforms.

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    I’d suggest changing Wahhabi to Salafi, the term preferred by adherents, who find the former offensive.

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      Thanks. We won’t be doing that. The agreement between the House of Saud is with the Wahhabi, the followers of Muhammad Ibn’ Abdul-Wahhab. It is Wahhabism that is exported by Saudi Arabia. Wahhabi may be Salafists but Salafists are not necessarily Wahhabi and it is the political power of the Wahhabi which we are focused on in this piece. The Wikipedia entry on Salafism addresses the risks of making them interchangeable: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salafi_movement. Thank you.

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        The naming is a bit tricky. The original Salafi are passed away around 1400 years ago. Hence, the group is a Neo-Salafi one following the understanding and teachings of Sh. Wahhab. The original Salafi may have acted differently if they lived today from the Neo-Salafi. Their power is vanishing rapidly inside the country and the families Saud and Wahab are inter-married for generations now and can be deemed one large extented family. My suggestion for naming would be Neo-Salafi to make clear that it is a movement, which desires to follow the ancestors. Nowadays the movement is not only exported, but homegrown in many Western countries and Wahabbi terminus no longer properly applicable in my view.

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        It seems good enough to me, this is not central to the correctness of this article. No need to further complicate this ^^

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